Moral obligations to be met before we leave Afghanistan…Women and our Afghan allies

Women and the people who have truly cast their lot with us deserve some consideration before we leave Afghanistan, however much we may want to just pack up and go.

Here is a link to an NPR program on women and their current treatment by the Taliban.  Imagine what is likely to happen to them without us there.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129306237&ft=1&f=1149

Note that education of women, in and of itself, is opposed by the Taliban.  And  we’ve been prating about how we have helped secure educational opportunities for them.  If we leave messily, as we almost certainly will, we will not have lived up to our moral obligation to them.

Then remember the people who did not make it aboard the helicopters picking up evacuees from the roof of the US embassy in Saigon (and remember, there were people all over South Vietnam, not just in Saigon, who had placed themselves and their families in jeopardy if we left without securing their safety).  Some of those people suffered greatly and others did not.  In either case we did not live up to our moral obligation to them, those who escaped retribution did so without our help.

I really would like to see us out of there.  I really would not like to see women and those who have served us suffer for our leaving.  Any suggestions?

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3 thoughts on “Moral obligations to be met before we leave Afghanistan…Women and our Afghan allies

  1. “Then remember the people who did not make it aboard the helicopters picking up evacuees from the roof of the US embassy in Saigon (and remember, there were people all over South Vietnam, not just in Saigon, who had placed themselves and their families in jeopardy if we left without securing their safety). ”

    South Vietnam losing was nothing more than the conquest and rape of a nation by an enemy foreign neighbor. The South Vietnamese did not want us to leave, but they did want to leave with us. After they lost, they were treated like a conquered enemy, not a liberated territory…. with hundreds of thousands of civilians put into death camps and/or killed during the post-war “peacetime”. And people fled Hanoi’s holocaust in droves. There was no boat-people scandal before North Vietnam conquered the South.

    And the American left ignores this. John Kerry went on record saying that the death camps really weren’t bad at all. The lies about the conquest of South Vietnam persist, as the liars portray the failed US effort to protect this nation as being far worse than its conquest.

    Why is this?

    1) The left hated the draft (with good reason)
    2) Ho Chi Minh said he was doing it to help poor people, even as he was ordering the execution of tens of thousands of poor peasants. Uncritical minds accept good promises.
    3) The left hated Nixon, and quite often hated the US.

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  2. I think somehow the women of Afghanistan have to become protected, honored, and cherished by the men of Afghanistan. Otherwise they will always need armed guards, and Americans cannot play that role indefinitely. How to change a culture?

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    1. Given all the factors that affect a culture, I don’t think “we” outsiders can do it as it will respond to our efforts in many unpredictable and often undesirable ways. But, we can restrain our impulse to intrude on them and then leave the people to the retaliatory responses of the culture when we leave it. If we had stayed with finding Bin Ladin and not broadened our intrusion to bring in our values, we “might”, emphasize “might,” have managed to limit the unforeseeable and undesirable consequences of our presence. When we decided to go beyond that we created a moral obligation we cannot or do not choose to meet.

      A wonderful old book with two parts, the first of which is short narrative of events documented in the longer part which one may or may not want to read is Daniel Lerner’s “The Passiing of Traditional Society.” I commend it to you.

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